Upgrading VPS?

[rgyure]

I have the P1 plan, and its not exactly cutting it for me as far as memory/performance goes. I had a ticket in requesting some more information about upgrading my VPS; however in the 2 responses I got, I still didn't get an answer to my questions. So I have come here in hopes that I can find out where to go.


Ryan

[TomK]

Hey Ryan,

Please PM me the ticket # and I'll see why your questions didn't get answered.

Basicaly, if a P1 isn't enough, you can go to a P2 or a P3, as we don't do customized plans since it will put the hw nodes out of balance in terms of cpu cycles and ram commits.

[rgyure]

Tom,

Thanks for looking into it. Just didn’t want to be sent on a wild goose chase. :D


Ryan

[Bogdan]

Hi Ryan,

I'm just curios, how was the support technician answering your ticket?

[rgyure]

In my responses, I had asked a little bit more information about upgrading, and I wanted some more information on the performance of the VPS. The best I was told is that the P2 plan would be the minimum I should upgrade to. I had asked about how I would go about upgrading and didn't get an answer on how I could do this. I just didn’t feel my questions were getting answers, and that some of the replies were repeats from other replies.

For the most part, I just want to make sure that the P2 plan would work. Because for $119.95 (Price of the P3 Plan) I can go out and get a dedicated server, and I know that would fix the performance issues.

I don’t need the information now, so if the ticket needs to be put on hold till someone can fully answer my questions, I’m perfectly fine with that.


Ryan

[TomK]

Ryan,

We can upgrade you to a P2 to try out for 48 hours or so and see if it fits your needs, that would not be a problem, we do it all the time for customers looking to upgrade, but nervous it won't fit their needs.

As for the Power-3 vs a dedicated, by all means, and I tell customers this all day long - if it is resources / memory you need, a cheap value/budget dedicated solution will out perform a VPS all day long, and it will be the same cost or sometimes cheaper then a higher-end VPS plan, as it should since it lacks management, 7x24 OS support, backups, ability to migrate to new nodes without rebuilding OS, moving data, restores, etc.

We will have a product out very soon that will combine the benefits of a VPS (management, migrates, restores and backups, ability to upgrade hardware without OS reload or moving of data, ability to keep your IP's as your site grows from a P4 to a dual proc xeon or opteron, etc) with the true performance of a dedicated machine, but it won't target the value/budget hosting space, it is a bit higher end price wise, starting around $300 per month and moving up from there.

It'll combine the benefits of a VPS with the true performance of a dedicated server. We have quite a few of these running today and have been tweaking them over the last 120 days or so and working out any last minute issues with raid configs, backups to handle 200-300G per server, etc.

A VPS *is not* a dedicated replacement, that is our biggest support problem we've seen over the years. People think a VPS can handle what a dedicated P4 3GHz machine can handle, and get disappointed when their 100 user VB forums, etc cannot run on a Power-1 plan.

[TomK]

Boy, I hope my babble ^^ up there makes sense, I should get some sleep...Pm or email me with any questions, etc.

[rgyure]

Make perfect sense. I should be getting some sleep as well. :D

I realize the difference between a VPS and a dedicated server. My idea isn't to match its performance, but to get close to the performance. When I end up moving a customer from my other P4 server to the VPS, and I hear comments like "Does this machine seem a little bit slower?", it starts to worry me. I just want there to be very little performance changes when customers move over, not something that’s pretty drastic. I want to make sure that any of the bigger plans would offer me that. Things have been picking up for me the last month or so, and I want something I can grow with. Hence why I choose PowerVPS. :D

I love all the perks that come with a VPS. Support has been great here so far, and the backup feature is something that I like. Even though I do my own backups daily, it’s still nice to know that if something happens, a restore is a ticket away.

I have the ticket open, and I guess you guys are working on what would be comparable to a P4, so I will see how that goes.

I appreciate the help!


Ryan

[elix]

Make perfect sense. I should be getting some sleep as well. :D

I realize the difference between a VPS and a dedicated server. My idea isn't to match its performance, but to get close to the performance. When I end up moving a customer from my other P4 server to the VPS, and I hear comments like "Does this machine seem a little bit slower?", it starts to worry me. I just want there to be very little performance changes when customers move over, not something that’s pretty drastic. I want to make sure that any of the bigger plans would offer me that. Things have been picking up for me the last month or so, and I want something I can grow with. Hence why I choose PowerVPS. :D

I love all the perks that come with a VPS. Support has been great here so far, and the backup feature is something that I like. Even though I do my own backups daily, it’s still nice to know that if something happens, a restore is a ticket away.

I have the ticket open, and I guess you guys are working on what would be comparable to a P4, so I will see how that goes.

I appreciate the help!


Ryan
Have you optimized your current VPS? Ie. installed eAccelerator, etc.? Note that if you customize httpd.conf settings, remove unnecessary modules, etc. it may actually reduce load a lot. The Power-2 should be pretty powerful, the Power-3 is definately a strong powerhouse as it handles nicely under high load.

[ndndixie]

We will have a product out very soon that will combine the benefits of a VPS (management, migrates, restores and backups, ability to upgrade hardware without OS reload or moving of data, ability to keep your IP's as your site grows from a P4 to a dual proc xeon or opteron, etc) with the true performance of a dedicated machine, but it won't target the value/budget hosting space, it is a bit higher end price wise, starting around $300 per month and moving up from there.

It'll combine the benefits of a VPS with the true performance of a dedicated server. We have quite a few of these running today and have been tweaking them over the last 120 days or so and working out any last minute issues with raid configs, backups to handle 200-300G per server, etc.
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When? When? When? :D A new toy?

[elix]

BTW Ryan,

My Power-3 smokes a P4 in terms of PHP performance :-).

[rgyure]

Have you optimized your current VPS? Ie. installed eAccelerator, etc.? Note that if you customize httpd.conf settings, remove unnecessary modules, etc. it may actually reduce load a lot. The Power-2 should be pretty powerful, the Power-3 is definately a strong powerhouse as it handles nicely under high load.

Yup I have installed eAccelerator, and I have been working on the httpd.conf, etc. I'm keeping my load pretty steady, so that’s not really the problem. I have just been noticing a little drag when loading web sites and my hope was that a higher plan would help fix this. I just want to make sure that something higher would work out. Don’t really feel like wasting a ton of money here, and believe me I have done plenty of that. :D


Ryan

[elix]

Yup I have installed eAccelerator, and I have been working on the httpd.conf, etc. I'm keeping my load pretty steady, so that’s not really the problem. I have just been noticing a little drag when loading web sites and my hope was that a higher plan would help fix this. I just want to make sure that something higher would work out. Don’t really feel like wasting a ton of money here, and believe me I have done plenty of that. :D


Ryan
What node are you on?

May want to request for them to move you over to something else.

Also, have you turned compression off for eAccelerator? That actually helps. What exactly loads slow, is it PHP pages or what?

You can IM me if you want.

AIM: i R r00t

[rgyure]

Is there a way to find out what node I'm on? I know that I was put on a backup node when I first bought a VPS here, then was moved to a new machine when the new hardware came in.

PHP pages had a little bit of a drag, and at times cPanel has been slow (That’s not a big deal though). I have just upgraded to the P2 plan, so I will see if that fits my needs.

I will contact you a little bit later today.


Ryan

[rgyure]

I have run into another issue. The topic can be viewed here: http://forums.deftechgroup.com/showthread.php?p=2867


Ryan

[charles]

Ryan, there is no need to post here about other posts you have made. If you have a issue with support, please ask for the issue to be escalated.

charles

[rgyure]

I had asked for the ticket to be escalated 50+ minutes ago, is there some kind of delay?


Ryan

[Robert]

The issue is being looked at. We'll reply as soon as possible.

[Hvu]

Wow, Your site must generate alot of traffic, or mysql / apache isnt optimized correctly. We're hitting 500+ hits per minute of traffic and can peak to 700+ at peak hours, The coding is highly optimized as its been developed in house. Using AdoDB with 5 min cache and highly optimized php/mysql setting we're seeing load averages at 0.50 at peak and 0.05 at "dead" times. System Memory usage is around 40% according to VZPP.

[rgyure]

I never said my load was high, just that there seems to be a little bit of lag time. Also have to remember, I have more then 1 site on the VPS, and I’m looking for a plan that would be somewhat comparable to a P4. Also, we had Tomcat running (Which if you didn't know is a big resource hog. That might be the cause of some of the problems we are having).


Ryan

[Hvu]

There you go Tomcat sucks up memory like crazy. Well, i wouldnt run Tomcat on a VPS maybe a dedicated with 1gb of ram or somthing. Hope your solve your problems.

-henry

[charles]

/me hugs henry

LOL